Tuesday, September 1, 2009

Closing Arguments -- Willis



"Lowly personal attacks"? Don't try and play the victim. Although slightly informal, this is a debate blog. You started your post by making claims such as that you don't say "I hate Freshman" and similar phrases. I simply disputed your false claims. If we were debating about impulse thrusters in space shuttles and you claimed to have majored in Aeronautical Engineering, you would be falsely leading people to trust your opinion. If I tell people, "Ben Wood is no rocket scientist", it's not a personal attack. I just don't like our readers being misled.

Freshman in general may be dressing less modest than last year's freshman, but why single them out? Every class is dressing sluttier than the previous year. My grandma will vouch for the fact that college seniors now dress more provocatively than they did when she went to school. Also, you're "validating" your theory by assuming that every person you see dressed like a slut is a freshman, and every modest person you see is an upperclassmen.

I apologize if my take on your no freshman rule came off as insulting. Your decision to not date freshman is a logical one, based on the fact that you are more likely to find somebody that matches your maturity level in an older crowd. The problem is that the underlying assumption in your post is that all freshman are immature. With blanket statements like "if you're older than 21 and dating an 18-year-old YOU. ARE. A Dirtbag. Plain and simple." you imply that the 18-year-old has nothing emotionally or intellectually to offer the 21-year-old, so the 21-year-old must be into the 18-year-old for purely physical reasons. If our example Alexis came to you and she was technically a freshman, but she was emotionally mature and didn't fit into the freshman stereotype you have in mind, I maintain that you would try and date her. It would be silly not to.

My 18 vs 17-year-old comment was meant to show how rules distinguishing different actions for different ages should be allowed some give. Without a calendar you wouldn't even know when the change from 17 to 18 happened. Your exact words were, "older than 21 and dating an 18-year-old", not over 22. I'm only splitting hairs to show that the age limit you impose is not a strict one. I believe it is simply based on what maturity levels you assume each age comes with. If you're not sure where to draw the line, then you can't get too mad at people for crossing it.

I agree that people should think before they act, and not blindly follow all social norms. What I am trying to do is convince readers of this discussion to treat people they come across on a case by case basis. Making generalizations about people and failing to look deeper can lead to missing out on a lot of things. In 5 years from now I just don't want you to be guilt stricken, sobbing with your head on the floor knowing that you passed up a chance to date Alexis Bledel.

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